Myth-Jack THIS: @46:30 Dr. Z Can't Add 2 + 2 and get 4

Thursday, February 7, 2008

@46:30 Dr. Z Can't Add 2 + 2 and get 4

Ratner expresses his surprise to hear Zelikow say we can't assume evidence from the interrogations was torture.

Ratner: "Can I say it 100% ? No."

He goes on to utterly demolish Zelikow's story, demonstrating that anyone who can do 1st grade math can add this up. Oh, and need to be able to do something Zelikow and other authoritarian royal pains in the ass can't do: think for yourself.

| [ 2 (Report Relies on Interrogations of KSM et al.)]
|+[2 (Hayden says, yes, we tortured those very people by waterboarding.)]
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| 4!

Ratner: "You get 4."
Zelikow: "[Ratner] doesn't know that, we don't know that, NO 1 knows that."

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Zelikow Authored the US National Security Strategy, What Could He Gain from Myth-Jacking the Report?

Rumsfeld leaned heavily on the FBI and CIA to find any shred of evidence linking the Iraq government to 9/11, but they weren't able to. So he set up his own fact-finding group in the Pentagon, the Office of Special Plans that would provide him with whatever shaky connections it could find or surmise.

Feeling confident that all plans were on track for moving aggressively in the world, the Bush Administration in September of 2002 published the "National Security Strategy of the United States of America." The official policy of the U.S. government, as proudly proclaimed in this major document, is virtually identical to the policy proposals in the various white papers of the Project for the New American Century and others like it over the past decade.[It wasn't known at the time that Zelikow was the author.]

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Zelikow's Figleaf for Torture (The Infamous Textbox of Page 146)

Detainee Interrogation Reports
Chapters 5 and 7 rely heavily on information obtained from captured al Qaeda members. A number of these "detainees" have firsthand knowledge of the 9/11 plot.

Assessing the truth of statements by these witnesses--sworn enemies of the United States--is challenging. Our access to them has been limited to the review of intelligence reports based on communications received from the locations where the actual interrogations take place. We submitted questions for use in the interrogations, but had no control over whether, when, or how questions of particular interest would be asked. Nor were we allowed to talk to the interrogators so that we could better judge the credibility of the detainees and clarify ambiguities in the reporting. We were told that our requests might disrupt the sensitive interrogation process.

We have nonetheless decided to include information from captured 9/11 conspirators and al Qaeda members in our report. We have evaluated their statements carefully and have attempted to corroborate them with documents statements of others. In this report, we indicate where such statements provide the foundation for our narrative. We have been authorized to identify by name only ten detainees whose custody has been confirmed officially by the U.S. governement.*

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*Those detainees are Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah, Riduan Isamuddin (also known as Hambali), Abd Rahim al Nashiri, Tawfiq bin Attash (also known as Khallad), Ramzi Binalshibh, Mohamed al Kahtani, Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani, Ali Abd al Rahman al Faqasi (also known as Abu Bakr al Azdi), and Hassan Ghul.

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Thursday, February 7, 2008

@46:30 Dr. Z Can't Add 2 + 2 and get 4

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